And there are some very good people out there and they’re very good but they’ve been taught too narrowly rather than the wide spectrum of things that can be altered.

If I may I’ll give you an example of this. And this has been written up in the medical journal in Australia here. There was a women with an infantile breast in other words one breast had not moved at all the other was the normal size. The doctor said do you think we can do anything with this and I said well I’ll give it a go.

And within 6 months we had the left breast the same, well within 10% of the right breast which was satisfactory and if you look that up, Dr Roy Berrins was the referring doctor and he wrote it up in the medical journal and now that’s being used all over the world and it happened here in Adelaide, the first one.

Chris :
You mentioned while you were talking something that I find difficult – deradicalisation of terrorists. I suppose on the basis that they’ve been radicalised in the first place that through hypnosis you can actually change that pattern.

Bryan :
Not necessarily with hypnosis. The radicals are brainwashed virtually. Now what is necessary to track down one of these problems…..well there are about 17 ways people arrive at a belief system. So what we do pretty much…..what they’re doing in Indonesia our closest neighbour, they find out what the belief system is and what they’ve been taught and then they get a higher authority, a mufti with more clout as it were, to deny what they were taught as being the truth.

And after a period of time they become converted to the extent that they help deradicalise others.

So we go a step further and we use hypnosis as well but what we do is we get people to look at the reason for the belief, how did you adopt this belief system that you had to be perfect for instance, then we have a system where we take the ground from that belief from underneath them and leave them without that belief, it’s very powerful particularly with hypnosis.

Chris :
Obviously we have a lot of terrorists who generate from here as well and the mosques don’t seem to be able to do anything to deradicalise them.

Bryan :
You’ve got a very difficult situation in Britain, I have been there before, because most of the people that you import stick together in their various enclaves so it’s like having gangs or having a nationalist view in every street as it were.

We have a different approach in that what we do is spread them around so that in one area you might have Vietnamese, Chinese, Sudanese all together and we’ve got a really good multicultural situation and in fact the people who alert us of danger are actually the nationalists or religion in the case of the Muslim population.

They’re the ones who alert us of what might happen and we haven’t had a terrorist event. We’ve had a trial of it but we got the guy before he did any damage so were very lucky. That’s my view of the way it works here.

Chris :
We’ve got an interview with a lovely man who says now he doesn’t hypnotise people. Basically what he does is dehypnotise them. That there behaviour is caused through some sort of hypnotism and what he does is take it away so he is almost a de-hypnotist as opposed to a hypnotist.

Bryan :
Well I would question…what I think what he’s really talking about is being brain washed rather than hypnotised. Because for instance people who are born into let’s say a Christian society will grow up believing in that society’s religious belief and that happens all over the world. For instance there are 2,443 different Christian beliefs for a start and they all think they are the right ones.

So that’s the difficulty you have when you grow up with a belief system that is penetrated in the early months and years of childhood, it becomes imprinted.
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