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Hypnosis Demystified - Bryan Perry Interview

Chris :
I put out on Facebook a request for people to tell me the difference between hypnosis and hypnotherapy. I got a reply from Australia to say that much like over here hypnotherapy isn’t really registered at all. It isn’t……..I don’t want to use the word recognised, but it’s not monitored very carefully over there, is that true?

Bryan :
It pushed them. It was here and we started the first course that was accepted by the Government and we were virtually elevated to tertiary level course so we were the only people in Australia for a while that could actually issue Diplomas that could be issued all over the world.

So we did have that regulation for a period of time, there was no stage hypnosis. The training was very rigorous, it was a 2 year course and it was extremely effective and every therapist who did that course went on to have a successful practice, either part time or full time.

Now a few years back the Act was repealed and now it’s unfortunately back to people coming to the field, not for a professional point of view but for a commercial one because they can just start and there’s no control and they can start practising and they think they’re a hypnotherapist just because they can hypnotise someone.

Chris :
It’s getting silly over here. There’s one company that advertise to train hypnotherapists online for 69 pound. It’s almost criminal to expect somebody…… there are people out there who pay 69 pound to try to put people into trance and try and change lives, it’s almost criminal.

Bryan :
It is and we have people like that here unfortunately and I spend a lot of time arguing with them on Facebook and becoming very unpopular. But my view is that when you go into this field you either make a choice of two things.

One being you’re going in to make money and you will for a while and then people will realise you’re ineffective and you drop in a heap, or you become professional and you learn it properly and you work with medicos as I did, more than half my patients came from psychiatrists and psychologists and General Practitioners.

You have to make that choice and if you want to become commercial I’m not interested, I’m not interested in training people for that reason. My barrow that I push is to make a professional practice and work with the medicos and deal with all those people who need help with a professional point of view. To give you an idea I’ve put well over 100 people through the course and everyone has done well professionally.

We had a Barrister on our Disputes Committee and it was really properly done. We had those 30 odd years of really wonderful comradeship and my colleagues were well trained and those that are left are still my friends.

Chris :
Do you believe there’s a difference between hypnotherapy and hypnotism……hypnosis?

Bryan :
Well you see hypnotism is just the act of hypnotising somebody and what really matters is what you do when you hypnotise. Now in order to be a hypnotherapist you need to know or have some talent in psychopathology and all the psycho dynamics of how the mind works.

In my workshops I don’t talk about hypnosis for the first day. I talk about how the mind works. One thing I can impart to you as to why it works is your dealing with old brain neuronal pathways and as such you need to consider what you are implanting….. It’s like stem cells, mental stem cells, so they are far more powerful under hypnosis than would be the case with CBT for instance.

Chris :
Is there one memorable case that you remember having dealt with that was special to you?

Bryan :
In my early days I made many, many mistakes so in that case they were all very special because I learned quickly to treat symptoms and not the cause. I treated over 50,000 patients so it’s hard to pick one you can say was special, to me every one was special in some way.
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